The documentary film Some Kind of Heaven paints a provocative portrait of post-retirement life in The Villages, an enormous complex in central Florida. My friend Maddy—author, journalist, professor emerita, and good buddy—saw it last February at an early screening, at the Miami Film Festival. When the film became widely available on streaming services last week, she urged me to see it. It’s a compelling documentary, she told me. Besides, she wanted someone to talk it over with.

We started our conversation where the film starts, with The Villages itself. The opening shots show us the town center (designed as a nostalgic recreation of the perfect small town of the 1950s), golf-cart precision drill teams, and sunbaked older people dancing in matching white cowboy hats.

Maddy: Republican candidates love to campaign there, and just about everyone thinks it’s hilarious that they have more STDs per person than anywhere else. A few dwellings have been victims of sinkholes, swallowed wholesale by the melting earth—another point of hilarity, at least for some people.

Nancy: I hope those people were having fun with their synchronized swimming and belly-dancing. And I admire people who can be silly in group situations. But to a quiet, bookish person like me, that whole first sequence looked like one of the lower levels of hell. It made me shudder.

Maddy: Ten minutes in, and I thought, If I have to live there, bring on the cyanide. But the filmmaker eschewed the easy targets and went for something much more meaningful.

Nancy: Yes, he did. I loved how that contrived group jollity is just a backdrop for those intimate, heartbreaking portraits. Oppenheimer chose his subjects well, too: two women and two men, one married couple and two singles. Anne and Reggie are struggling to cope with Reggie’s loss of inhibition and small drug habit. Dennis, a drifter and grifter, lives out of his van, seeking out women to sponge off. And Barbara, recently widowed, works in The Villages’ office and looks for a man to share her life with. It’s a good mix.

In an interview with Vox magazine, Oppenheimer said that he wanted to focus on “people who were on the margins, who didn’t exist inside the . . .marketing brochure. When you train a camera on the Villages, all you really see is artifice. So I wanted to find real people, with real problems, in an unreal place.” He was looking to make a film that didn’t feel savagely critical, or sociological, or even journalistic, but “novelistic,” tuned to people’s interior lives.

You and I both love novels like that—novels that let us witness small, important moments in the characters’ lives and share their emotions.

Maddy: Yes, and I like documentaries that do that, too—when they do it without condescension. In this film, I appreciate that Oppenheimer gives us images of people in their later years that don’t reduce them to being cute or cognitively impaired. The film shows the four life stories with such compassion that you leave feeling …changed, or something like it. It is that feeling of gratitude that you get when you unexpectedly see something in a new deeper light.  The film is respectful, even lyrical.

It’s astonishing that Lance Oppenheimer could make this film when he’s so young! He started this project as his senior thesis at Harvard. He must have had a wise elder advising him on the project.

Nancy: Ha! I do think Some Kind of Heaven works. Oppenheimer manages to make his characters’ struggles feel representative of a loneliness that’s part of any human life.

On the other hand, precisely because it’s compelling art, it also makes me want to argue with it.

Maddy: That’s one reason we get along. Tell me more!

Nancy: Something about Oppenheimer’s portraits felt artificial or exaggerated to me. He shows us their lives only in the present day. There are no siblings or children in sight, no buddies to pal around with, no longtime friends to talk things over with. All four of the film’s subjects seem, as my husband put it, like King Lear on the heath—stripped (partly by their own actions) of the roots and connections that ground human beings. Everything around them is artificial, surface, false. Only their desperate loneliness has depth and dignity.

Maddy: It’s not easy viewing. But I was struck by how much all four main characters still want to connect.

Nancy: I agree, mostly. The two women certainly do. Anne seems determined to stick it out with Reggie, who’s having strokes and drifting into the craziness of dementia. (It made me think so much of my mom, when my stepfather descended into Alzheimer’s and all the weight of the relationship fell on her. Very painful.) And Barbara felt to me like the film’s emotional core, with her hopefulness and clear-sightedness. But Dennis—does he really want to connect? Or is he a narcissist who wants a soft place to land?

Maddy: Ah, Dennis, the sad freeloader who keeps hoping for the main chance.

Nancy:  Yet even with him, I felt his desperation and vulnerability.

Maddy: I admired Anne’s steadfast efforts to help her husband. Long ago, she took a vow, and she wasn’t about to break it.  But I felt most closely connected to Barbara, partly because she wants to return to the Northeast, partly because she was the only one who was still working.

Nancy: She seemed the most open, too. I loved that she got that tiny moment of success towards the end—the monologue in her theater class, in which she could voice her feelings through someone else’s words. And everyone applauded!

Maddy: When I saw the film at The Gables Cinema, the director was there. And guess who else? Reggie. He seemed terrific. He was no longer on the drugs, and you could see his charming, thoughtful side. It was a happy ending, and I wish it could have been reflected in the film.

I have another question for you. One of the subtexts in the film is how you live a meaningful when time and money may be running low. Did the film inspire any specific thoughts in that direction?

Nancy: Woah, big question! Too big for a little blog post. (Maybe people can start addressing it in the comments?)

Meanwhile, thanks, Maddy, for giving me the heads-up about the movie. As you said, it wasn’t easy watching. But it did make me think about the choices ahead of us all—where we’re going to live and how we’re going to live. It’s also made me glad I have the chance to pursue my genuine interests in retirement. Mostly, though, it’s left me grateful for my networks of friends and family–and for how much work and creative energy people have put into sustaining connections during this Covid period.

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  • Thanks, Nancy, for sharing your podium. This was fun. I love discussing works of art with you, politics and easy recipes.

  • Fascinating ! I loved eavesdropping on this conversation between the two of you. Thanks for the chance.
    Sally

    • We had fun talking it over. When you’ve seen the film, I’d love to hear your thoughts on it….

  • Wow I so enjoyed reading this blog as I had also been “urged” by Maddy to view the documentary and so Julian and I did. I do agree that Barbara is the emotional center of it all and I find it on the one hand mindblowing that Oppenheimer was so young and then again not so much. I think it has to do with Michael’s wonderful observation that all the residents featured are like King Lear on the heath, stripped of all the web of connections that give meaning to life–family and friends with whom they have history and shared experience, but isn’t that the choice these people made when they moved into an this artificial , fabricated environment? As we watched, Julian and I kept asking “where are their peeps?” meaning where are their kids? their grandkids? their family members? where are their old colleagues and friends…the ones they’ve known from high school, college, the old neighborhood, bookgroup, fencing, playing music–all the things that give life meaning over the years? It seemed like an environment created to delude them into thinking they weren’t really old and nearing death. But one they chose. But as you both said, it provided ample fodder for thought for those of us at this stage in life. Also I agree the question of how to live a meaningful life when time and money may be running low is a huge question for our generation as I’m guessing it is a slim majority for whom this choice is even an option.

    • Yes, “where are their peeps?” was definitely my question. Some people aren’t lucky enough to have peeps, I suppose. They’re shy, divorced, childless, whatever. Anyway, I’m glad to have you and book group among my peeps!

  • Hi Nancy! This movie is on my short list of ones to watch so of course I had to read your perspective. Without having seen it yet, I think you raise so many interesting (and critical) ideas about getting older and retirement. While I do confess to getting older, I’m not yet calling myself retired. I still blog consistently and publish a book now and then, not traditional work but a work like schedule nonetheless.

    At the same time we live in southern california where there is a very large retirement community. In fact we have three large Sun Cities here. Not exactly like the one in Florida but pretty close. When my husband and I turned 55 we considered moving there. Why? Because I was so attracted to all the amenities it offers. So we went to talk to people and every single one of the people we met there LOVED the place. Of course, the more we talked the more they described a life along with work that was pretty bleak. Getting to Sun City was like heaven to most of them.

    Then we started observing the rules. They have tons of them and you MUST follow them or you will be fined–over and over again. The thought of living under a bunch of rules and expectations like that was a real turn off. We decided we wanted to live around people who hadn’t put their lives on hold all their life only to be entertained until the end. Of course, the question of how to best go through the rest of life is one that changes constantly so we’ll see.

    But thanks for the heads up on the movie. We will definitely watch. ~Kathy

    • My in-laws lived in the Florida Sun City. I was pretty dismissive (not to them, of course!) at first, most because I have an unfair allergy to suburbia. But it worked very well for them — including a “senior college” that my mother-in-law was Dean of, with two hundred six-week courses. And poker night and volunteer EMT for my father-in-law. And a pool for both. Because my MIL was nearly blind with macular degeneration, she could continue to drive anywhere in Sun City on her gold cart — that was pure gold for her.

  • Sounds like an interesting documentary! My first thought was that, oh dear, when I am old enough to retire, they will make a community with a 1980’s theme. We will all have spiked silver bangs or brightly colored mohawks, and try roller skating through town! Yikes!

    But I love how they do into deeper, more serious stories, in the midst of the facade. I think it definitely would be worth my time to watch it!

    • I love the idea of spikes and colored hair and roller skating — sounds like a blast, at least until I trip on those skates and bang up my elbows and knees (as I did all the time when I was a kid and teenager….),

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